BJJ Collective Review

This is a review of I was contacted by Stephen Kim of the website in the comments section awhile back. I’m not a member so this is just a quick overview of what you can expect to find and my opinion of the site. It is also just that – my opinion. YMMV.

Layout and Navigation

The site uses a drop-down menu to present you with options to filter videos in case you’re trying to find something specific. For example, you could pick “Sambo” from the stand-up section (and then “Sambo”, and then “Throws”) to see a set of throws from Sambists like Reilly Bodycomb. 

There is a search feature. For fun I compared it to YouTube by searching for “Koepfer”. Rolled-Up Episode 35 pops up which is awesome, but I was hoping to see some of the other videos by SamboSteve. To be fair, there’s not a lot on YouTube for that search term either. You have to know what you’re looking for on YouTube, and the big advantage of BJJ Collective is the ability to look without knowing the term you’re looking for.

The categories and sub-categories (though not sub-sub-categories) have nice pictures, which are great because there’s so much variation in terminology. For example, there’s the picture for “scarf hold” and another for “side forward”, but I would call it “kuzure kesa gatame” and would expect the techniques to be under “scarf hold”. The pictures definitely help you understand what’s going to be in each category.


There’s not actually a lot to say on this. The videos are all from YouTube so there doesn’t seem to be any original content. As noted, the real benefit is the fact that someone else has gone through the work of finding all of the videos for you.

There is the ability to rate and add a breakdown of the video, but no ratings or break downs existed for the videos I psuedo-randomly sampled.


I like that someone went through the work of finding all of the videos. Normally you’d have to hope that someone shared the video on LockFlow that you could find it in the technique library or know what to search for on YouTube or LapelChoke, but BJJ Collective presents an interface where I can just look in categories to get to what I want without even having to know the terms. The guy held me like that picture, it was this variation, and I want an escape. Now I have four. Awesome. It’s definitely a format I’d recommend for beginners looking to find techniques.

The one big knock I will make is that the UI could use some work. The fact that a drop-down is used, but is not closed when you make a final selection, that I have to click “Wrestling” as a sub-category of “Wrestling”, that there are three different versions of navigation on the page, and the “(Go Back)” link to the right of the category title all feel a bit weird. The page is not responsive so you don’t get an experience optimized for mobile. That’s all very picky though. LockFlow isn’t any better on the responsive web department, and comparing to LapelChoke should probably be cheating since Jesse is, well, Jesse and we would all be disappointed if M3MMA didn’t put out a responsive site.

Popping sound countinued

So I owe you guys like a million posts (or at least a couple reviews and a status update).

Update here, review of BJJ Collective to follow.

I went to the doctor today to follow-up on the ankle. We’ve ruled out bone, cartilage, or muscular injuries thanks to the x-rays, range of motion I do have, and strength I have. It’s a connective tissue injury and there doesn’t seem to be any two ways about that. It’s likely I’ll be able to return to BJJ from a health perspective, though it’s still on the order of weeks out. Healing is going slow. There’s not really any meds or therapies my doctor knew of that would help. I’ve heard HGH can be amazing with helping injuries like this heal faster, but all the evidence seems to be anecdotal with no long term studies I could find around the use of HGH to assist with ligament and tendon injuries. There are a lot of snake oil style remedies – turmeric and egg paste, electric stimulation, etc. I’m surprised at the market for recovering from an ankle injury and how much of it seems to be bogus.

On the other front, the “do I actually deal with the risks again?” front, I’ve made a couple decisions. I know if it heals enough that the pain becomes manageable I could return to judo with a brace. So that’s kind of the minimum – I’m planning to go back to judo. My decision on BJJ will be entirely based on how judo goes after I finish recovering. Hopefully in another 2-4 weeks I’ll be able to go back on the mat with some serious taping.

Unfortunately the injury meant missing Tanner and Tim’s last classes. I still went to the going away party, but it’s just not the same, you know?



You’re rolling. It’s pretty controlled and whatever. You’re going to resist if there’s a sub attempt, but when it’s locked in you tap. You find yourself defending a straight ankle lock by posturing up and he’s switching to the heel hook. You’re still safe with your foot on the ground so you keep the pressure. He sweeps you and immediately cranks on the heel. Before your hand can reach his leg to tap there’s a loud popping noise. He keeps going past the pop until you successfully tap. You look at him and just say “never crank on those.”

The next day you’re in your doctor’s office. An avulsion fracture seems ruled out by the xrays, but based on where the pain is there’s definitely some kind of injury on the ligament. You’ll follow up in four weeks if it’s not progressively improving. You should do some rehab after it heals – draw the alphabet with your foot, use the band you have from last time. You don’t need crutches or a brace, but only because you already have them at home. You can’t walk without external support.

That was my last night and this morning.

If you’re following along at home you know this is the second time in less than a year someone has decided to not just sink in the heel hook, but finish it. Last time my doctor really wanted me to consider quitting jiu-jitsu if these kinds of injuries were a common occurrence. I dismissed it back then. Most of my injuries came from competition and at some point I just stopped competing. Now it’s looking like quitting BJJ is a reality I might have to face. If I’m getting serious injuries in regular practice I really need to consider if I can continue with jiu-jitsu.

I have at least the next six weeks to think about it.

EDIT: After I posted this I realized there’s an important distinction I want to make. This doesn’t reflect on my opinion of FightPrime. Both incidents of injury were with guys I do not normally see and do not normally roll with. FightPrime has been great about addressing these incidences when they arise. This isn’t about FightPrime not being safe – it is. In my time there I have one ever seen two individuals get hurt, and one was me. Matt and Thales do a great job trying to prevent injuries and following up when they happen.

What this is about is me getting too old to continue to risk injuries. It’s not okay to be a 25-year-old with arthritic changes in most of your joints. It’s not okay to have debilitating phantom pains that shoot up your hand and forearm. It’s not okay to have to miss work to have an ankle or finger or wrist looked at because stuff got a little cray-cray with someone who isn’t one of my regular half-dozen training partners who after years of rolling with I know I can trust completely.

It’s also about me not wanting to be the guy who only rolls with the same 5 or 6 people because I can’t trust others. Trusting people with delicate parts of your anatomy is part of jiu-jitsu. When you feel like you can’t trust people with your anatomy, can you really still do jiu-jitsu?

The Decline

Even though I do classes twice per week I’m out of shape. I’ve gotten into the habit of slow-rolling which means I’m rarely, if ever, pushing myself the way I need to. Tuesday I went with Brian, a great guy and a solid jiujitsero, and I’m still sore from it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not unhealthily obese yet or anything, but there’s pudge where there used to be abs and pull-ups are exhausting when they used to be easy mode.

So I’ve decided to do something about the decline that I’ve been experiencing pretty much since I stopped training for tournaments: outside of class exercise. Starting this weekend I’m going to be trying to do tabata style workouts with sets of burpees. Real burpees. The kind where you jump and do push-ups. Not the kind where you just sprawl and stand back up.

Anyway, I’ll try to document if it helps. Since wedding season is upon us and I have work trips I’m out of class almost entirely for the next couple weeks so here’s to hoping this at least keeps me from falling further out of shape.

Purple Belt Test Details

The first two semesters that I did Waboku ryu jujitsu (Fall 2007-Spring 2008) I had pretty much no idea what Brazilian jiu-jitsu was. What I did know is that every Wednesday I would roll with Alex and Evan. One whose guard I could not pass, the other who I could not keep from passing my guard. I asked Mark how I could fix that problem; his advice pretty much summed up to “work on sweeps and passes”. Looking back, it was solid advice. So I tried to find somewhere I could work the guard during the summer when I was back home. I found this BJJ gym about 30 miles away from home (8 miles from work) so I started making the drive after work. July 2008 is when I officially started training BJJ.

Almost six years later and I’m finally a purple belt. That makes me pretty close to average (per Aesopian). I felt like it took forever to get the blue belt, so I’m pretty happy that I’m more or less back to par for the course. I don’t know why that matters to me, but it does. Maybe it’s the recognition that I’m finally “advanced”, maybe it’s because it gives me serious hope that I can get the black belt before I’m 30, maybe it’s just ego. I don’t know. I do think it’s really cool though, and it gives me a lot of hope and motivation to train hard for the next couple years to try to get to brown.

Before the test I kept wavering between super confident and super nervous. I wrestled the night before just to make sure I could do the takedowns that I’ve been doing for almost seven years; the takedowns I’ve had work in competition and class, and have never worried about before. As I phrased it to Thales – “I [wasn't] worried about knowing the techniques. I don’t even need to think to pick out four armbars from guard. What I [was] worried about is knowing enough details for each of those techniques.”

I have this paradigm around the purple belt. Since the test is what amounts to the basics, but purple feels “advanced” it was super important to me that I be able to show the kind of details that you’d expect out of an advanced player showing armbar from closed guard. The difference between a blue belt and a purple belt to me isn’t that one can do a triangle from back mount where the other would only know the bow and arrow choke; it’s that the purple belt should know details about the bow and arrow choke – setup, finishing, breathing. Yes, you can make your chokes from the back better by breathing correctly. That’s the kind of details I was worried about remembering – get deep enough on the collar, bottom hand placement, remembering to stop and exhale, then take a big breath while finishing the choke. When you’re worried, panicked, whatever, you miss those. You just grab and choke and it works, but should it?

My prior experience with tests has been the X technique style tests. Testing with Wade I want to say there was around 76 techniques to know for your white belt stripes and then blue belt; 81 more techniques for blue belt stripes and then purple belt. At any point in your test you could be expected to know any technique from any previous curriculum. That means that for purple belt you could reasonably be expected to know over 150 techniques. To be honest, it’s not a bad way to learn. When picking my techniques to do, I looked at Wade’s curriculum and found those things which I knew a lot of details about. The only downside is looking at them and going “what is the Giant Killer from the back? I don’t remember what that means.”

Thales’ curriculum is far more open. Rather than seven very specific arm locks from guard, it’s four arm locks of your choice from closed guard. You pick which techniques you’re most comfortable doing. It’s a lot more about developing your own style instead of learning the style of your instructor.

Overall the test went well. There was only one point where I crapped out and couldn’t think of a technique because my fourth guard sweep was going to be a star sweep, but I forgot to ask my partner to stand up to break the guard so I just went with a scissor sweep instead. There was also a point when doing mount escapes where I couldn’t remember if I already did a certain escape. It turns out I had done unique escapes each time so it was fine, but I just stopped there in butterfly guard asking “did I already do this one?”. Time management was tricky – you need to go slow enough to make sure Thales can see the details of what you’re doing, but quickly enough to get all the techniques in before the next class starts.

There was no rolling component. I guess I was expecting it even though it wasn’t on the curriculum. Maybe it from the more sport-oriented background of the MCMBJJA schools that I was in before, but for a belt there was always rolling. Could you roll with a very large white belt – that is, have to learned to control weight? Can you roll with a blue belt about your size and control the positions? Can you roll with a brown belt and survive long enough or keep yourself from bad positions? Can you roll with a white belt half your size and keep from crushing them – are you a good partner for new students to work with? I also distinctly remember a certain purple belt test at Third Heaven where the two candidates had to roll with two people (each) at the same time. I’m pretty glad that wasn’t part of my test.

Long weekend

I have to keep this one brief, so here are the quick bits:

  • Wrestling class is still harder than anything else I’ve ever done. I love it and wish I could make it more.
  • I got promoted to purple on Saturday (and got the last two stripes on my blue belt), so that’s pretty cool.
  • I got to work on some straight ankle locks and knee bars with a couple of blue belts that were interested in working on them.

All is well. Sorry for the short post, I’d love to go into details about wrestling, what we’ve been doing in BJJ, and the test; but alas, no time.

Rolling and Zen

I love flow drills. I feel they help my game, but more importantly, they help me decompress. Flowing is a spiritual experience for me. I like to describe it as “very zen”. It’s six minutes where my brain is completely off. A sort of moving meditation.

When you think about what you’re doing while flowing you’re not quick enough. Likewise, you can’t let yourself be distracted by thinking about anything outside the flow. A second thinking about what you’ll have for dinner and you’ll have been swept. Think about the armbar in front of you and you will have missed the window. You trust that your body knows what to do, and your mind ends up just blank. There is no past; no future. During a flow drill there is only what is happening in that moment.

The times you have to think when rolling are times where you or your opponent is stalling. You’ve been pinned, you’re holding him in mounted triangle just trying to get that last two inches of space to finish, you’re in deep-half just chilling. Flow drills are about movement and don’t have these stalls. When you get the pin and they don’t escape you move to a different pin. Both of you have to keep moving. Neither of you has time to chill; time to think.

I know some guys are thinking through their flows. They’re thinking four or five steps ahead to avoid being too slow when the opportunity happens. I’m not them. I’m not hunting for the submission. I’m not worried about holding the top position. I’m just having fun and relaxing. If you are the kind of person who sees six moves ahead I applaud you. That’s a fantastic skill. The next time you’re super stressed though, I recommend grabbing someone you can just flow with at a pace fast enough to keep you from thinking, but an intensity low enough that there is no ego. That’s the sweet spot. That’s where you can’t think; you just have to do.